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Fungus on Scotch-Brite pad?

 
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rjlittlefield



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 1:31 am    Post subject: Fungus on Scotch-Brite pad? Reply with quote

When I first saw these white flecks on a green Scotch-Brite pad next to my sink, I thought they were some chemical re-crystalizing.

But they got bigger and bigger.

Eventually I looked at them with a magnifying glass. Wow!

I have no idea what this stuff is, but it sure looks interesting.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked wow very interesting.
that is really weird.
I hope someone cn tell us what it is?
fungus?

Lynne
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Ken Ramos
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kind of reminds me of a cactus Rik Laughing Never seen anything like it though, don't know what it is. A real good shot of it though. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It makes mr want to go and bleach my sponge!
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rjlittlefield



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ken, whatever else this stuff is, it's one hellishly challenging photomacrography subject.

It's so small that individual frames don't really show the structure, and all of the current extended depth of field software has a lot of trouble with the interleaved spikes.

Fortunately the stuff also seems to be fairly durable. As far as I can tell, it has quit growing and has been stable for several weeks. Maybe I can hack off a piece of the pad and use the white stuff to test new technology for years to come. (Hhmm, this is sounding familiar. Does this remind you too of those Amphipleura pellucida dots?)

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Rik, I vote for chemical.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont know what that is..
But it indeed looks cool..
It looks like some sort of fungus
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely chemical. The more solid lumps are hard and brittle. The white stuff blackens, chars, and loses its strength when exposed to flame, but it also dissolves quickly and completely in CLR, a household cleaner composed mostly of lactic and gluconic acids designed to remove calcium and iron stains. And, um, it also dissolves rapidly and completely in plain water, which I suppose I ought to have tried first. Very Happy Embarassed

So now the mystery changes. What chemical would I have had near that sink? Could this stuff in fact be recrystalized CLR?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rik,
58 frames?? Now that's what I call dedication....

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is your water hard? Do you have to use a lot of soap to bathe or wash dishes? Especially if it comes from wells (either your own well, or a public drinking water supply well, it could just be the "normal" minerals and dissolved solids found in most groundwater.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm amazed Rik Shocked That is some ratio you have pulled out there. Incredible what you can find.

All the best Rik and BTW, I will work on the other ratios and specs as well. Need time though and decent light. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeBinOKlahoma wrote:
Is your water hard? Do you have to use a lot of soap to bathe or wash dishes? Especially if it comes from wells (either your own well, or a public drinking water supply well, it could just be the "normal" minerals and dissolved solids found in most groundwater.

No, doesn't fit. The water here is pretty soft, I've never seen anything like these crystals before, and hard water scale does not quickly dissolve in plain water as these do.

Thinking more about the problem, I'm betting on them being dried organic acids from the CLR, which I do use regularly around that sink. (It's actually a project room sink, not a kitchen sink.) That would explain both the rapid dissolving and the decomposition with heat.

I have an experiment underway right now, trying to reproduce the crystals using a fresh pad and a bit of CLR in a small container. I'll let you know how it turns out.

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